March 17, 2017 at 8:23 am #21103
I made this lotion yesterday, adding a bit of Shea since it’s still pretty dry here, and subbing out the sea kelp bioferment for propylene glycol, and I love it! The scent is YUM!
My only problem is my allergies do not like the scent. I was so careful to make it lighter than the 5 drops of each essential oil, too. My eyes are literally watering! I look like I’m crying! I really loathe my allergies right now!😠
So, if you don’t have allergies, try this lotion! It’s really a nice lotion! The scent is wonderful and spring-like too, which I love. It will literally make you cry! HahaMarch 18, 2017 at 6:01 am #21110PennyParticipant
I made this one (posted about it on the blog). I used citrus essential oils. And changed up the oils too. And used silk. And holy smokes! It’s brilliant!
My sea kelp secret has arrived, and honestly? I am not sure if I am actually going to try to change this recipe. It’s quite perfect the way it is!March 19, 2017 at 9:37 am #21120
What is your blog Penny ? I would love to peek at what you did. I have a bioferment but its not sea kelp….I need to look at what the difference is. I was toying with the idea of this recipe but in different scents. I’m not a big lemon scent lover. But I only have…..bamboo bioferment. Any idea of the difference anyone?March 19, 2017 at 9:44 pm #21150
I thought bamboo bioferment was more of a hair product?? Or maybe a silicone replacement?? If it’s like dimethicone, you can use it in skin or hair products, either one. Or both! Go crazy!! Haha! So, if it’s like silicone, it’s a occlusive, I think. The sea kelp bioferment is an emollient. If I were more awake, I’d look it up, but I’m falling asleep. I need to get to bed!😴😴March 19, 2017 at 9:48 pm #21151
I think Barb is talking about Marie’s post on the Lemon Chiffon lotion. I know she’s commented on it. Check the comments on that post to see what she’s referring to.
When I get my sea kelp bioferment, Barb, I will need to try it as is. It sounds like a lovely summer lotion! I love the scent even though it makes my eyes water. Is that crazy?!?March 20, 2017 at 6:46 am #21153
mmm, the bamboo is probably for hair. I had bought a bunch of stuff to do some of that. Sidetracked, lol. I think I will look on windy point and see what they have, I mean …I HAVE to get the magnesium stearate so I am paying for shipping any way! ugh my pocket book is killing me. I feel like Dory in the Nemo movie…ohhhh look more ingredients :D!
I’m curious…..I really like the Moraine lake lotion, but was wondering if it will be too thick for a pump….can you just increase the water content and preservative accordingly to make it a lighter lotion? I was comparing the two lotions (lemon chiffon and moraine lake) but you can’t just switch the scent blend as the wax contributes to the fragrance. Any ideas? I haven’t made either one as I am still using up store bought and some Manitoba forest balm that I tried the bayberry wax in.March 20, 2017 at 6:03 pm #21154
Connie, when you make a lotion recipe, your percentages should always equal 100%. If you just add water and preservative, you’re going to throw everything else off. So, if we look at Marie’s recipe, here’s what it looks like in percentages.
7% hemp seed oil
7% safflower oil
4% Bayberry Wax
1% rose wax
0.5% liquid Germall Plus
This totals 100.5%, so close enough to 100%. If you wanted to be precise, you could make water amount 72.5% and the numbers will total to 100%. Now, to make this a thinner lotion, you need to increase water percentage to around 80%. So, when you increase one number, you have to take away from another to still equal 100%. So, the logical place would be to lower your oil and ewax amounts. Your ewax should be 26% of oils in the recipe, unless you are using Polawax which is 25% of oils. Different emulsifiers have different usage percentages, so you need to check which one you have and calculate accordingly. So, I calculated the ewax amount below for generic ewax at 26% of oils.
Thinner Moraine Lake Lotion
5% hemp seed oil
5% safflower oil
4% Bayberry Wax
1% rose wax
79.5% distilled water
0.5% liquid Germall Plus
To make, just substitute the percentage sign for grams, and bam! Thinner lotion recipe! To make a double batch, substitute percentage sign for grams and multiply all numbers by 2. To quadruple the recipe, multiply all numbers by 4, and so on and so forth….. Since I have not made this, I cannot speak to the effect that the wax has on the lotion. You could drop the Bayberry Wax by a percent and the rose wax by a half a percent, and adjust the water percentage accordingly to total 100%. That would thin it out even more, I would think, so it would be more “pumpable”.
So, have I helped or confused you?!?! HahaMarch 21, 2017 at 6:24 am #21169
If I could throw hearts across this link and give you a hug, I would :D. This makes sense to me. I have been stumbling around trying to figure out how you know how much of what and here you go…a few simple words and it all is clear. Now to look at my ewax and figure that out. And bone up on my math (kids will help me with that, lol). I’m so excited I want to go play but I’m painting my ceilings today and still have walls to do. I think Susans site will make a little more sense to me too. ummmmm I hate percentages…it’s been a while since my basic math,ugh googly eyed thinking about it. Its time I reviewed it apparently, so many tweaks I would like to make to some recipes…So much FUN to be had!March 21, 2017 at 7:47 am #21170PennyParticipant
Doubling a recipe isn’t so chancy, it’s when you go to make the recipe for say stocking stuffers for twenty people where you begin to notice your numbers just aren’t working. If you are making small amounts, sure. But if you are going to be increasing your end results, Belinda’s bang on the nail.
Percentages are the way to go.
And make sure you have a scale that is accurate to .1g.March 21, 2017 at 8:52 pm #21192
Awwwwwww! Thanks Connie!!😊 I’m glad I was able to make the picture a little clearer for you. Following Susan and her formulation guidelines really helped me immensely. Until then, I had no clue what I was doing. After figuring out exactly what Susan was talking about, I sat and reworked every recipe I had. No wonder I couldn’t get some of them to work! They were just WRONG!! Haha! Now, I’m whipping out the calculator on my iPad and making sure I have my numbers right, every time. It’s time to hone those math skills, Connie!!
Barb, I can’t imagine making a recipe for 20 people, well, unless they’re small “sample” sizes…. Then it’s like “one for me, one for so-and-so, one for me, one for…..” You get the drift!😁😁
Have fun painting Connie! When you’re done, you can come to my house and paint if you want to!😂March 24, 2017 at 10:52 pm #21259MarieKeymaster
This thread makes me so darn happy! Ya’ll are so wonderful 🙂
Most of my lotion recipes are 100g and start in percentages, so if you swap the “g” for a “%” that’ll usually work out. I sometimes round up the water a bit to account for evaporation during heat and hold (depends on the recipe and how old it is, ha!), so that will often explain some 106% sort of recipes 🙂March 25, 2017 at 6:03 am #21268
Haha Marie! I recognized that after Belinda walked me through it. I have been having fun eying up the formulas with an eye to what I could change/tweak to make it more ‘me’. Thank you for doing it like that, it makes it easy to have fun with them.March 29, 2017 at 8:23 am #21425
So I am trying this today 🙂 I have an itch to create something and I love to put my own spin on. Before I pull on the painting gloves I think. Yes I am still painting my house..did I mention that its huge? I live in a lovely, very old, drafty farmhouse that is in process of me mucking out and cleaning up :D.March 29, 2017 at 5:15 pm #21433
Connie, I say YES! Do something fun before you start painting again. Let us know how it turns out.
How awesome you live in a farm house! Well, except for the drafty part! Brrrr! I’m sure it will be lovely when you’re done getting it all fixed up.
I’d love to buy an old barn and renovate it into a cool living space some day.
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