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July 25, 2017 at 11:28 am #23273
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ParticipantC, you can mix the recipes together, or do 50% of each pigment together. It will be the same concentration, just if you mix two recipes, you will of course double the amount made. If you are wearing it 50/50 on your lips, then it should give you the right colour, otherwise you might have to tweak it. Keep in mind though that the order you wear the lipsticks changes the colour. If they are mixed together, it will give one colour, but if you wear on your lips red, then pink, the lipstick will look lighter than if you put pink, then red. Think white crayon on black paper vs. black crayon on white paper. So mix both together, then put it on your lips, and see if that is what you want. Otherwise, keep them separate.
July 25, 2017 at 11:32 am #23274Joyful
ParticipantZil, if you want red, you need carmine or red #7. Otherwise, you will get orangey or brownish. I have both blue shade and regular red iron oxide, and the blue shade gives brown once in a lipstick, and regular gives orangey. I’ve tried many different recipes to remove the orange, but it just becomes more brown. Get the carmine or red #7. Idk where you live, but if it’s in Canada or the US, buy carmine from TKB Trading. Otherwise the price is ridiculous. I get the carmine powder, and it mixes fine in the oil base. I prefer to put all my pigments through the coffee grinder though, because then the colour is evenly mixed, and it’s easier to incorporate into the base.
December 6, 2017 at 12:47 pm #24580C
ParticipantI mixed two pigments together and came up with a color I want to turn into lipstick…BUT, I forgot to add the Titanium Dioxide while formulating the color. Sigh. How much TD should I add for one lipstick and what do I do since it will lighten my color? Just keep adding more pigment until I get back where I was?
Edited to add: I’ve been doing about 10/16 tsp of pigment / lipstick (TD not included).
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December 6, 2017 at 4:19 pm #24582Joyful
ParticipantTitanium dioxide tends to kinda change the colour when you add it. For example, I made a lipstick using only carmine. It gave me a sort of deep red, but not opaque. I add titanium dioxide, and it turns to a purple/pink and pretty bright. So unfortunately, it’s kinda trial and error. Add a little bit, mix well, test, etc. So far, the only way I was able to make a matte “true” red was by layering colours. I eventually want to try melting them together to see what it will give me, but I haven’t had the time yet. The order of the layers is important, so it might not give me what I want. I put orange, red, pink, and a little more red. I would have expected pink from carmine + titanium dioxide, but it’s more purple than pink, so idk where that came from, lol.
December 7, 2017 at 1:42 pm #24583C
ParticipantThank you Joyful. I had a feeling it was going to be trial and error…I will start with 1/64 TD and hope it opacifies without driving the color too light!
December 11, 2017 at 8:48 pm #24586Joyful
ParticipantHopefully you get a colour you like! Post pictures 🙂
I ended up blending already made colours together in a pot instead of just on my lips, and got this:
I’m pretty happy!
December 14, 2017 at 11:42 am #24589C
ParticipantWow, that’s a beautiful color! Were they any of Marie’s lipstick colors blended together? Your color is so bold and bright! Does it have Carmine? I’m really trying to attain a bright red without Carmine and dyes/lakes. I know it’s a long shot, but I’m determined lol. I will keep you posted if I gain any progress. Thanks for sharing your color!
December 14, 2017 at 11:45 am #24590C
ParticipantI should add, I’m trying to get a vegan red for a friend. Anyway would love to know how you you got this color even if it has Carmine for lipstick for myself. 🙂
December 14, 2017 at 4:12 pm #24591Joyful
ParticipantThank you 🙂 none of the colours were from the book. All my lipsticks are my own colours, but I use Marie’s base with some substitutions. When blending this red, I just went by ear (or eye, lol). I didn’t write down the ratios. I do have carmine and red #27.
I doubt you will be able to make a true red without using carmine or a dye, but you can make orange reds or brown reds. I made an orange red using oils infused with alkanet root powder (infused without heat for weeks – I just left it there, but it kept getting darker. It turned fresh blood red. Enough to give a lip tint when used as the sole oil in a lipbalm). Then add some red iron oxide and some white. You don’t want too much iron oxide or it turns brown red, but the alkanet root helps reduce the orange. You could also try alkanet infused oil + red clay. Just don’t expect a bright true red.
December 31, 2017 at 3:49 pm #24648BelindaSK
ParticipantJoyful, that was a gorgeous color! I’d wear that!!
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