March 30, 2017 at 1:40 pm #21441CynnaraParticipant
Hey! This wavy chickie is sorta curly. Like maybe. Near the front of my head. The back is more wavy mess. 😂
So, polyquarteniums can build up, so the occasional deep cleanse might be necessary. Which by the way, I got cute and discovered it was the best cute me moment ever. I have some low sulfate shampoo for those buildup days, like every couple of weeks or so. What I did was add my leftover conditioner that was wonderful, no parabens, no cones, etc. thus I can wash and then if needed, condition again. So, I’m happy.March 31, 2017 at 7:48 am #21444
I sometimes do something similar, Twin. If, when co-washing, I feel I need a little cleansing boost, I squirt a small amount of non-sulfate shampoo into my conditioner and voila! It’s more gentle than straight shampooing and I get a little more of the cleansing that I need without going for a straight up shampoo.
In regards to the polyquaterniums, not everybody reacts to them the way I do. Some curlies can handle the polyquaterniums. My hair just doesn’t like them when they’re in about the top five or six first ingredients. If they’re one of the last few mentioned in the ingredient list, I’m not as concerned. I don’t know how long it would have taken me to figure it out for myself had I not seen some remarks on Naurally Curly, then on The Wavy Library. If you read the section below the individual comments on a thread (on NC) you’ll see that some ladies have made “taglines”, I guess you would call them??? They post their hair type, likes & dislikes, wash, conditioner, and styling products they use, etc… I kept seeing “hair hates polyquats” so I started looking at the ingredients on my products and how my hair reacted with polyquats and without. Lo and behold, I got the frizzy stringy hair every time I used the products with polyquats. So, I stopped using/buying things with that ingredient and the stringy, frizz factor is gone. Well, until I refresh on second and third day hair, but I think for most curlies, that’s pretty unavoidable.
I use the Suave Daily clarifying shampoo every other month or so to strip out any buildup on my hair (before a protein treatment and deep conditioning treatment combo) and that really helps perk my hair back up.March 31, 2017 at 8:44 pm #21448CynnaraParticipant
One must see op purging so one can go longer. However I’m day three without shampoo, cowash and my hair looks GOOD! Just fresh water and a bit of my hair refresh. Boom. Happiness is lighter the better. So I’m curious on how me and the polyquats will go. *eyes bottle* It best be good to me!April 1, 2017 at 10:01 am #21450
Polyquats may be fine for you. Every head of hair of hair is different.
Yes! It feels awesome when you can stretch out the washing and hair is still playing nice! Woo hoo!April 2, 2017 at 7:36 pm #21469TahiraParticipant
I’m finding this thread to be really informative!
I have another question: what’s the difference in terms of ingredients & function of a gel vs a curl creme?
I’d been using Kinky Curly Knot Today as my leave-in styling for curly hair, but I tried a random sample of gel from a friend yesterday, and it held the shape of my curls so much better, even managed frizz better, though it dried with a cast. It seemed to cast as soon as I finished scrunching, in fact.
It had me wondering the question above: what differentiates the label/name of gel vs creme, both in function and formulation, and thought some of you might have some insight… 🙂June 8, 2017 at 4:51 am #22762SimplySheParticipant
Well, it’s been a while since I followed up on here! I made version one of my HairStory dupe and while its a nice enough cowash, the smell is awful. I didn’t have the extracts I wanted and I think I was light on the rose water. Fragrance is an issue for me in all my products sigh. That said…….wooooohhooooo, my curls have decided to hang out with me when I use it. 😀 I think it was just taking time and the right amount of moisture as summer approaches and the humidity gets a little higher. I will post my next dupe when I use up this stinky one, lol. I have been hanging out at point of interest, devouring all things ‘gel’ and debating the wisdom of investing in some extracts and other odd stuff.June 8, 2017 at 10:15 am #22764
Tahira, I layer my products on my curls, because just one products doesn’t seem to cut it! My routines are as follows, due to changing dew points, which affect my wavy curls. My hair is also fine texture, normal porosity, and medium density, all which plays into how much product I can use on my hair. If you have different textures, porosity, and density, you will have to play with the amount of product to find your balance.
Dew points around 40’s or lower… co wash with Curl Junkie Daily Fix, step out of shower with wringing wet hair, emulsify together in my hands a pea sized amount of leave in conditioner (As I Am, Curls Blueberry Bliss, KCKT, Jane Carter all work well for me) and a pea sized amount of curl enhancing cream (Shea Moisture Smoothie is DA BOMB!), work through hair first by using the praying hands method then finger combing upside down, scrunch hair, scrunch in two pumps of Camille Rose Curl Maker, scrunch in about a quarter to half dollar sized amount of gel (Herbal Essence Totally Twisted gel emulsified with a pea sized amount of Biosilk’s Rock Hard Gelee OR Deva Curl’s Arc Angel or Ultra Hold Gel), plop for 10-15 minutes, take down plop and scrunch dry upside down with a microfiber towel, scrunch in three fingertips of Kinky Curly Curling Custard, flip head over and try to give Roots a bit of lift with a bit more of the KCCC, diffuse until crunchy then let hair air dry the rest of the way. When hair is completely dry, I shuffle my scalp by going underneath my hair and gently shaking, then scrunch out the crunch until I can’t feel it anymore.
Dew points in the 50’s or higher… co-wash with Biolage co-wash for curly hair, on wringing wet hair smooth in As I Am Curling Jelly, flip head over and finger comb then scrunch, scrunch in Deva Curl’s Arc Angel or other gels mentioned above, plop, scrunch out rest of water with microfiber towel, scrunch in KCCC, flip head upright, do root lift thing, diffuse a bit or just let air dry. When completely dry shuffle Roots then SOTC.
It took me a while to figure out what to do, in what order, and what products worked the best for me. It’s all a guessing game until you get in there and start trying stuff out. I watch YouTube videos and read blogs, seeing what other fine wavy haired girls use, but found that what worked for them didn’t always work for me. So, until you try something, you really don’t know what’s going to work for your hair. It’s fun, frustrating, and will turn you into a product junkie! Haha!June 8, 2017 at 12:45 pm #22765
Woo hoo Connie! Score! I know what you mean about the scent thing. I have literally created some stinkers!! I think the Rose hydrosol will definitely help with that!
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